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Post by qp on Apr 9, 2005 10:10:23 GMT -5
I pose this question in relation to an email I receive several days ago about myself helping out other to much. I have felt and always will feel that the Quetico permit system works and is there for a reason. Hince the reason to not over crowd the park and or over use those campsites. What about the fact of telling someone about a hidden campsite that hardly ever gets used. Should it be give out so as to releive the other over used sites on a lake? Or remain to be selfish and kept it to ones own for personal gain? Would sharing portage info be out of line? Hmmm, Just simply state that all Q portages are just the same? Or would you want to know about that alternate route around that heart stop ridge? Now maybe not giving the GPS cords to that fishing hole I'd agree with, maybe not. But would you tell a person that a fishless lake does exist in the Q? Or would you let them fish it for days/years only to find out on thier own? Would you tell the history of an area to lure people there so they would leave your area alone? Or would you try to tell the history of an area as make sure they get the grasp of the whole picture? Should photograpy be ban from the Q? I mean if we were to get techincal why would we want to give someone a peek at our spot in the woods. But you know it is neat to show off where you been. So here it is proposed to you in a simple poll. VOTE my friends I want to know. Remember the old saying. If you don't vote then you have no right to complain.  qp |
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Post by buckeye59 on Apr 9, 2005 11:00:15 GMT -5
That's a tricky question Bo. I would give a favorite campsite location only to a friend but would be more inclined to give portage information or dangerous rapids info to anyone. It woulb be almost impossible to have a "secret" campsite in the BW since they are all marked but in the Q it's at least possible. So I'm not sure how to vote for the whole package.
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Post by HoHo on Apr 9, 2005 20:57:35 GMT -5
I agree with buckeye - hard to make a "one size fits all" vote. (Although I just voted for "given only to a friend"). I would give portage and navigation information to anyone. And frankly I would give campsite information to anyone who asked. I'm less sure I want to put all campsite information in a database that anyone can access any time. I've marked several sites on azalea's database telling people they don't exist etc. But I'm not so sure I would tell the whole world about a great secret campsite, or the route to Stumpy's Pond, etc. Part of that is because I still want to have some things be surprises for myself, and I assume others do too.
But QP I think it is great that you share information - I sure appreciated it last summer. So I disagree with whoever sent you the email, if I understand what they said correctly.
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Post by ThatMan on Apr 10, 2005 7:06:35 GMT -5
I've received much useful information from postings on this board and other boards that has really made our trips more enjoyable. Therefore I like to share specific information about campsites and fishing when I can. Knowing how many feel about posting detailed info for "the whole world to see" I like to share information by private messages and emails when I think I have something to offer. Except for specific fishing and campsite information, I don't see a good reason not to share other information publicly. QP, I appreciate very much the information you have generously shared over the years and I appreciate that kind of spirit.
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Post by satchmoa on Apr 10, 2005 7:59:59 GMT -5
HECK this is easy I don't have any friends  |
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Post by Kawishiway on Apr 10, 2005 11:03:14 GMT -5
HECK this is easy I don't have any friends Heck..that is a given, Satchmoa. You are a salesman, so am I ! Friends..are far and few... a character flaw I'm told.  QP, I have to agree with Buckeye and Ho Ho. This is a tough question to answer in a one click pole. If you were to ask me who should be given information on a specific area or thing..I'd say, who ever asks with good intent. When I first came to these boards I asked alot of questions and was answered greatfully by many. At that time I would not have considered any friends as to me they were but names on a BB. Many became internet buds and many became face to face friends at either Copia, Ely, Brainerd and hopefully their will be more. I came to the boards to learn. Friends were a by product and an unexpected gift. I'd have added to your pole... Who ever asks with good intent. That said, I didn't vote. Certain information given out can take some danger out of a trip, and or make the trip less strenuous. Some of the best information I've been given has been given along trail. Must we wait untill we are deep in the woods to learn on how to improve a trip we have been planning for months? I'd hope not. But as far as making all info public knowledge.. I'd say write a book on canoe routes / fishing / campspots and make a buck. Why not? Others have. ThatMan, Yup, like you said "it is that kind of spirit" that brings me back to these boards again and again, in reference to sharing that is. Yet, there is something to be said about the joy of discovering a place or something on your own and feeling like it is your own little secret. k |
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Post by Kingfisher on Apr 11, 2005 21:12:17 GMT -5
If you allow information to be too easy and widely available there will be some jealous people who will want to sabotage this effort by giving out purposely wrong information. I've seen it happen on fishing BB's and it may be happening on the portage and campsite databases.
Good detailed info should be worked for even if that work only involves a little research and a few private messages.
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Post by Yellowbird on Apr 12, 2005 12:43:50 GMT -5
Alot has been shared already; Beymer, BWJ, Fisher, McKenzie. Has the COMMERCIAL efforts of these folks added to or detracted from your trip experiences?
We are pretty much anonymous on these boards until somebody with a similiar personality strikes a rapport with us. How else does one establish him/herself without sharing some credible information? A trip report without details of the camping, fishing or portaging is stale chitchat in my opinion. You have the privilege to share a piece of information which you have earned with whomever, without being shamed for it. Respect the privacy of information that has been granted to you by someone else (provided he/she has earned it). Don't hold claim to information that only a blind person is going to miss along the busy way.
I seldom camp or fish at a place I've read about, but rather stay where ever the day ends up. I have yet to be disappointed.
We are on the tip of the iceberg with regards to internet availability of material. Ten years from now we may all be sorry for it. In the mean time, I'm going to meet a few paddlers.
-YB
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